Re: starship-design: FTL travel

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In a message dated 1/22/00 12:04:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca writes:

> Subj:  Re: starship-design: FTL travel
>  Date:    1/22/00 12:04:45 AM Pacific Standard Time
>  From:    bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca (Ben Franchuk)
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>  STAR1SHIP@aol.com wrote:
>  > 
>  > In a message dated 1/20/00 9:46:11 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>  > bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca writes:
>  > >
>  > >  Light is 3E8 meters per second or 300 meters per microsecond.
>  > >  With 1 us for echo return,1 us for radar detection and 1 us for
>  > >  deflection that
>  > >  means a travel speed something about 1/3C.
>  > 
>  > echo return time is a function of distance and c only so the pulse out 
and
>  > back travels at c period. Not 1/3 c.  velocity=distancetraveled/time so
>  > time=distance traveled times velocity.
>  >
>    True, 

checking my math v=d/t so multiplying both sides by t to solve gives vt=d, 
dividing both sides by v we get t=d/v so my answer time= distance times 
velocity was wrong and so your true becomes false. You should have caught 
that.

>but with the delays of echo return from the object,radar
>  processesing
>  and active deflection ( 3 us ) a ship can't be faster than 1/3C or the
>  ship
>  will arive at the object before is deflected. Also with time dilation
>  onboard
>  processing too will be slowed down, as the view point is from space not
>  internal
>  to the ship.

When a object reaches the effective range of the radar it does not need to 
wait for a main bang pulse to arrive as they are continuly sent. The echo 
races toward the reciever at light speed. The radar is an anolog computer 
that takes data from sensors(ear) processes it in real time at light speed to 
give output. Zero is the processor time unlike digital processors that take a 
long time to process digital data thus the output is not in realtime(now) but 
past time(then). Two of your named variable parameters are actually zero not 
micro seconds so the max velocity detectable is mass at light speed.

I could be wrong as I was above but request you give a full derivation or 
credible source for what you say before I change my mind with new evidence as 
it has been thirty years since I managed an electronic warfare laboratory 
jamming radars.
A requirement then I met of knowing more about the radar than the radar 
operators and builders  to succeed in jamming them. Do you know something I 
do not know or may have forgotten? It is possible:)

Regards,
Tom

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