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Re: starship-design: HIGHLY OPTIMIZED TOLERANCE
In a message dated 3/17/00 7:12:44 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org writes:
>> Now adays whole coutries can't get enough people to be self suficenty.
>> expect a few hudred folks in a ship to do it?
>I guess I have read too much "Mother Earth News" in my youth.
Sounds like. ;) Seting up a little cabin in woods is a bit differnt then a
space colony orboiting another star. To be fair even the Mother Jones types
arn't as independant of the technological society as they like to consider.
>have different resource bases, Canada is great for wheat, lousy for
>One Could grow them in green houses, but it cheaper to trade wheat for
>( Fictional example ). To recycle costs more ( $ wise ) than to throw
>and buy new raw material.
Even pasty that, they don't have the population resources to build and
maintain a technical society.
>> Where do you get this idea from? And do you consider the rest of the
>> to turn those wafers into stacks of usable chips? Then stacks of circut
>> board? Circut board designers? System designers/manufacturing?
> Nope -- use for repair of damaged equipment. Solid state logic
>lasts a long time, providing 1) operates cool
>2) Not pressured to by a new product from M$ or Intel.
So your not planing on being self sufficent. Just a encampment dependant
>> Actually the demands will be higher in the artificial environment of
>> ship. Much less the fact the ship will be presumably doing exploration
>> researh, which takes more exotic equipment.
> What is artificial about the equipment? It breaks -- repair it. Just
>avoid the "Green Slime Creatures". I assume by this time in-system
>transport is fast and reliable, with asteroid mining down pat for raw
Again. IC chips, alloys, complex machinery, etc are not something to be
fixed by home handymen without equipment.
>> >A robotic - mining factory with only 25 people for exotic material might
>> >a stock-holders rich,but will not do much for colonizing a planet.
>> Your point? We can't colonize any planets we find out there. Even if
>> could, since we can't make the starship self suficent, supporting the
>> colony from here would be even more impossible.
>By 2150? I assume that we would have self-sufficient colonies on other
>and they would be more supportive than mother Earth.
Why would they be more supportive? If anything a interstellar colony would
compete with them for resources from earth. Self sufficent colonies would
take millions of people. Oh, and why would we settle that many people on