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Re: starship-design: Suspended animation.



In a message dated 1/6/00 4:54:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, STAR1SHIP writes:

<< In a message dated 1/6/00 9:11:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
KellySt@aol.com writes:
 
 << Hey folks.  Ran across a comment about suspended animation/hibernation.  
  Seems they've done studies on animals using some of the drugs VooDoo folks 
  usedto use to make Zombies.  They show promis in use for hibernation.  The 
  same effect that slows resperation and pulse enough so you look dead and 
  don't sofocate until they dig you up, also works for hybernation for 
  something like space travel.
   >>
 
 Seems like there would be to much to do aboard a space craft to even want 
hibernation. Picking landing site, training colonist with colony skills, 
scanning scenery, Solving problems. Any star system colonization would 
require independence from earth and also require that reproductive quality of 
life in an environment of possible enclosed dimensions protected from the 
elements so that colony would succeed and grow even if landfall was in an 
uninhabitable place.
 
 
 A long time span journey solution has already been found by Einstein who 
showed that should your craft near speed of light relative to earth, time 
became dilated. At 50% dilation a journey a distance of 4 light years takes 
two years ship time giving a velocity of twice light speed. Closer to light 
speed, crossing galaxies and even the distance between them can be 
accomplished in days of ship time. 


Better monies be spent on engines capable of approaching light speed, -- like 
the one in the link below. Independence from earth means that the eons passed 
on earth during the few days are not important so distance traveled divided 
by observer time giving observed velocity with a c limit is meaningless. 
Unless of course your motivation for the journey is the parade of family and 
friends on return to earth. 
 
 Since velocity can exceed light speed in the part of the example trip given 
there clearly exists in the universe a counter example proving a light speed 
limit for rockets as nonscientific nonsense and defines the limit is on what 
can be observed and not what may be doable. The is no known reason to shutoff 
the engines accelerating at one g for 355 days just because the rocket 
becomes unobservable.
 
 The rocket becomes unobservable when velocity exceeds light speed because 
observer light traveling towards earth relative to the rocket is in fact 
traveling away from the earth with a negative velocity so does not hit retina 
to get observed.
 
 No paradox there but basic physical science calculating and measuring the 
velocity of an object thrown from a car towards the starting point when the 
velocity of the car wrt (with respect to) staring point is faster than the 
velocity wrt car of the object thrown back to starting point. The object 
simply does not reach the starting point. (neglect air resistance).
 
 I propose such unobservable velocities obtained may allow the travelers to 
return to earth and be closer to the age of the earth twin. Do not look for 
(as they do not yet exist as a complete relativity theory) the equations 
determining time variance above light speed and calculating the amount but do 
feel free to derive them special relativity(SR) and general relativity(GR).
 
 Please, do not confuse my rocket engine with those imaginary thought 
experiment rockets so often found in SR and GR basic training. 
 
 It has been pointed out to me that such a velocity concept and understanding 
of Einstein's theory was published by the SCI-faction author Poul Anderson in 
a book entitled Tau Ceti.
 
 My independent contribution to above remains my engine. Kelly- Please 
forward to starship- design mailing list as I forgot how and my mail 
responder just listed your address in send to: block. Feel free to add any 
personal discalimers you like :=)

Disregard last request as  figured it out.
 
 Regards,
 Tom
   
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