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Re: Socialism and others

At 6:36 PM 7/24/96, Zenon Kulpa wrote:
>> From kgstar@most.fw.hac.com Wed Jul 24 17:51:53 1996
>>
>> >Yes.
>> >For me it sounds as more convincing reason (plus socialism, of course...).
>> >
>> >-- Zenon
>>
>> Socialism saying everyone should be rewarded equally regardless of effort
>> or investment.  Greed saying, I don't want to lose out and I want some of
>> whatever you get.
>>
>Nice to hear that at least some Americans know what socialism means ;-))
>Unfortunately, from my contacts with a number of them Americans,
>and from observing the evolution of US social and political system
>it seems that you are a minority (and threatened by extinction)...
>
>Here goes some amusing characterization of various political systems
>I have found recently on Objectivists pages:

[...]

>-Zenon


Loved the list!

Given the types of Americans that ran over to the former Soviet [er]
'client states' <i.e. slaves> to try to convince you of how great the third
path <i.e. real socialism without the guns.> could be.  I'm suprized you
don't think the U.S. is filled with loonitics with PhD's!

Hint:  We do have clever people over hear.  Most get paid a fourtune to
stay here and say things that are actually usefull!



> Note also, that what you Americans call Liberalism
> is called Socialdemocracy in Europe.
> It is Socialism pretending to be not,
> and concealing the socialist doings by
> very intricate "democratic" (in fact, bureaucratic) procedures.

Thats more literally true then you might think.  The U.S. had a
socialist/comunist party in the 20's and thirties that was very popular
among a lot of elete university and idle rich folks that should have known
better.  (Same as everywhere.  Arrogent rich and powerfull folks who are
sure people would all be happy if forced to lived like they wanted them
to.)  Anyway said com/soc party didn't do very well in elections, and
became very unpopular during the wars (WW-II and Cold).  But if you look at
the party platforms in the 20's and 30's.  They were detailing the
structure of the current welfare state in the U.S.  Effectively they were
rejected, but their ideas were picked up by the democrates.

For some reason they never seem to give the com/socialists credit in their
speaches.  ;)

Kelly


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Kelly Starks                       Internet: kgstar@most.fw.hac.com
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Magnavox Electronic Systems Company
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