Brian, Check the following sites, if you can't find any graphics programs there, you can't find them anywhere. I suggest downloading Lview PRO, that one can convert and retouch a lot of different imageformats. (You need Windows though) http://sable.ox.ac.uk/~davids/graphics.html http://sun1.bham.ac.uk/s.m.williams.bcm/images/viewers.html http://www.kiae.su:8090/___[Kiarchive_root_directory] Tim