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Re: Recycling
To Kelly:
>I don't agree that most people would agree to much lower standards of living
>for lower work loads. Now people could easily live the life of people 50-100
>years ago with much less work, but that would mean little to no medicine, no
>T.V., computer, car, stereo, electricity, indoor plumbing, insulated draft
>free homes, etc... Homes like that are now illegal in the U.S., since they
>are considered uninhabitable.
Indeed, I agree.
>No doubt our current homes and lifestyle will
>seem equally squalid and unacceptable to our desendants. So they will work
>longer to live better.
It depends on what the gain would be. How fast will technology grow in the
futere, will the exponential growth of the last 2 centuries slow down?
>Probably not as long as we do now, and they'ld demand
>better jobs and treatment; but they would still work. I have great faith in
>human greed and desire for a better life for themselves, their families, and
>others they like.
Again, it depends on the gain. These days, many people decide to live from
social finances and not to work and earn more money.
>> By the way, do you think that human AI can be rivalled by "computers"
>within
>> say 300 years? (Just to get some idea of your ideas)
>
>Pretty much what I was pitch in DataNet War. We can now build computers with
>complexity approching the human brain (computers with E 12 bytes of ram have
>been built, I don't think the human brains much more than that.)
I remember that the human brain has E20 neurons. But it is not especially
the memory but the the connection between them, all have to be parallel.
>> Yes, that is what I meant when I wrote that a lot of time is spend on R&D,
>> if you would maintain what you have, the computers would become cheaper and
>> cheaper because only the maintenance and rebuild cost would have to be
>> paid.
>> These days a lot of money is paid for the development. Of course this
>> doesn't take in account the time that can be spared after the new products
>> can be used.
>> So if we go on developing like today's society, one day the amount of
>> spare(d) time will be more than the time used for R&D :)
>
>Computers are becoming cheaper and cheaper by a factor of 100 each decade.
Old computers are another factor 100 cheaper.
Tim