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Talking With:
Brian Mashburn
Save Ferris
guitarist/songwriter talks about their second albun and the challenge
of reapeating success.
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By Bradley Rife
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As
rare as it is for a band to get signed to a major label, it's
even rarer to have a hit record on your first outing. The lucky
few, however, find the largest hurdle yet waiting for them quietly
around success' corner — the ability to beat the sophomore
jinx and repeat past success.
Save
Ferris is ready. The Orange County, Calif. ska-pop-swing band has
returned with the aptly titled Modified. The 11-track disc
mixes the classic elements of the band's debut It Means Everything
— peppy horns, masses of energy and a sense of humor — with new
instruments, tempo changes and a little introspection about growing up.
Guitarist and head songwriter Brian Mashburn took a moment at the
beginning of Save Ferris' current tour to talk about the new album and
the pressures of repeating success.
OV: You toured pretty relentlessly behind It Means Everything.
Did you have a hard time readjusting to normal lives?
BM:
At first, a little bit. I was a little leery because my whole
life cycle was based on six weeks out, a week and a half home,
back out on the road again. Once I adjusted though, it was like
aw, I'm actually liking this right now.
OV: Were you reluctant to do the
new record and head back out on the road?
BM:
We did everything as fast as we possibly could. We still took
a whole year, but we had to take some time off. I had mixed feelings
about it. I really wanted to play again, but I was kind of like,
“Oh my God, back on the road again!” But it comes
with the territory.
OV: Did you approach the recording of Modified differently
from It Means Everything?
BM:
Yeah, totally differently. `Cause when we used to do our old songs
that basically went on It Means Everything, we used to
just jam together. I would come with a song idea and bring it
to the band and show it to them, and we learned it, and then we'd
work on it overtime playing live shows.
But
this record — it was like we had to write the whole record basically in
one sitting. I had come up with a few scratch ideas on the road, so I
walked in with about four or five songs in hand. Basically the rest was
me just kind of jamming out some music and trying to come up with a
lump sum of songs so we'd have some stuff to pick through, and actually
we only ended up coming up with a little bit more than what we put on
the record. It was pretty tight, and it was pretty strange because
instead of working one song to death and getting it perfected we had to
try to work on fifteen songs in one sitting.
OV: How are the new songs going
over live?
BM:
Pretty good. It's always kind of strange when you pull out a new
song. That's the thing for us this tour is learning how people
react to you on your second record. We're doing a little bit more
of the old songs than the new ones just because it is the first
[leg of the] tour, and that's what people want to hear. It's cool,
the really energetic new songs go through real well because you
can dance to them. But the new record has a couple mid-tempo songs
which we never really used to do in the past. They're really great
songs, and I think people like them, but it's weird for us because
everything else we used to play was like a 120 miles an hour,
and so you knew instantly if people liked it because they were
going crazy. Then you play a song that's mid-tempo and they can't
really go too crazy. So you're like, “Do they like it? Do
they like it? I don't know.” So we're a little sketchy about
that.
OV: What was it like working with
[producer] John Travis?
BM:
It was like working with a friend almost in a way. It wasn't like
working with the scholarly old school producer sitting behind
the board smoking cigars; it wasn't that vibe at all. He enginereed
and mixed the record, as well as produced it. We were bound to
a lot of our own ideas as well. When he came in we had already
demoed everything in a home studio, so we had put a lot of the
pre-production in ourselves. When he came in, he just tinkered
with the problem areas he thought he found with the songs. We
had a good time; it was pretty different.
OV: Was there any reason you didn't
want to work with Peter Collins again?
BM:
Peter's a great guy, and I learned a lot from him as far as how
records are made and arranging, but when we worked with Peter
last time, we had all the songs done. We knew they were good songs.
It was sort of like we already knew what we were doing, we didn't
really need someone to tell us a vision. So his whole thing was
helped on one or two of the new songs we hadn't really gotten
done. He was really good at working with Monique on the vocals
and stuff. His type of producing wasn't the type of thing we felt
we wanted for this record. We wanted something where we were working
more hands on ourselves with a producer rather than somebody telling
the engineer what to do and then telling us.
OV: Is it hard to get seven people
to agree on anything?
BM:
It is kind of hard at times, but for the most part everyone's
pretty chill. A lot of what made this record was people learning
where they fit in as far as how the band works. When we did the
first record I'd written a bunch of songs, we started the band,
we did the EP, we toured and everything started happening. We
wrote a couple songs, and then we went in and basically just cut
what we had. When it came time to do this record, it was like
“Well, is Brian going to write all the songs?” “Is
Mo going to write all the words?” “Who's going to
do what where?” We had to identify a lot of people's roles
within the band, and once that was sort of set up it was pretty
easy. It wasn't that bad to make decisions.
OV: Was there any tension in
deciding those roles?
BM:
Not really, I mean everybody in this band is pretty easygoing.
We have to be. Mo's the superstar; she keeps things going. She's
sort of the active, and the guys, we're sort of the passive. And
it has to be that way because that's the way we work; it's our
relationship. It works good. Everyone's just sort of like whatever's
better for the greater cause of the band than their individual
selves. But everybody has their little thing that they did, so
it's cool.
OV: I heard that the video for “Mistaken” is going
to have Adam Corolla and Dr.
Drew from Loveline in it.
BM:
We're just waiting for the label to do it because the label's
really busy with all these bands in the fourth quarter. They were
like “We want to wait and see how you guys do the first
couple weeks.” Mo came up with this idea kind of and she
sent it in to this guy at the label who sent it to one of the
video directors we really liked. It's a cool concept. There's
basically this part where we needed two people, and our bass player
said it'd be kind of cool if we got those guys because we've been
on Loveline before and they're pretty funny. So we asked
them, and we didn't really think they'd say yes, but they were
actually pretty stoked.
OV: What are they going to be doing?
BM:
I don't want to give away the secret or anything. Let's just say
one of them is really friendly with Mo, and the other one's not
so friendly with her, if that makes any sense at all.
OV: Were you worried at all about
alienating any of your fans with the new sounds and mid-tempo songs on Modified?
BM:
The thing about it is when we came home, not only did we have
to deal with the whole “making of your second record,”
which is always a big stress, we had to deal with the whole “You're
sort of a scene band,” and there was a buzz.
Now everyone's moved on something else, and people tried to pigeonhole
us into that thing.
I
think one of the things that made Save Ferris the band that is the fact
that we are able to write really good pop songs. `Cause if the ska
thing was the only thing we had going for us then we'd still be there
with 50 million other ska bands that didn't get signed. We knew we had
something more than that. So we just sat down and said let's write a
record that we are really pleased with ourselves because no matter what
happens we want to be able to look back and appreciate what we did. So
we went in with that kind of attitude. The people who really like Save
Ferris are going to like these songs because they're good songs. A
couple people who are just into us because of the ska thing might get a
little bummed because there's not as much ska, but with this type of
album we might actually be able to reach more people, and as a musician
that's ultimately what you want to do is to be able to reach as many
people as you can. That's your job, to be able to communicate your
ideas and thoughts through music.
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